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(CNSNews.com) - "The guy is a complete scoundrel. You can't believe him," Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said about Michael Cohen, President Trump's former lawyer, on Sunday.
Speaking to CNN's "State of the Union," Giuliani explained why Cohen has every reason to lie about Trump.
Giuliani - Experience - People - Things - Order
Giuliani said in his experience, some people plead guilty "to things they didn't do in order to get out of worse problems that they actually did."
"Of course it is -- if the father-in-law is a criminal," Giuliani said.
Southern - District - New - York - Plea
"And the Southern District of New York, in the plea, wanted him (Cohen) to go to jail and said he's lying. They don't buy the special counsel's approach. They say he's lying because he's holding back information that is far more damaging than the lies that he is sharing with them now. Now, what is that information about?" Giuliani asked. "It's about his father-in-law."
Giuliani noted that Cohen's father-in-law came to the U.S. from Ukraine and may "have ties to organized crime."
Father-in-law - Taxicab - Businesses - New - York
The father-in-law ran taxicab businesses in both New York City and Chicago, and press reports say he once pled guilty to federal income tax fraud related to his New York business. Cohen got involved in the taxicab business through his father-in-law.
"When somebody testifies against your client, you go out, and you look at what's wrong with them. Why are they doing it, if they're not telling the truth?" Giuliani said.
Father-in-law - Repercussions - Repercussions - New - York
"He's doing it because he's afraid to testify against his father-in-law, because the repercussions for that will be far worse than the repercussions for lying here. Because now he gets applauded in New York, where the crazy anti-Trumpers applaud for him.
"He goes and testifies against some people...
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